Thread: About Windows 11's high system requirements. You know, a lot of blind people, who don't have jobs, live on social security and disability money, and who definitely don't have the newest computers, won't get Windows 11. This could have been a great chance for Linux to step up and say loud and proud "Because we support every person's ability to choose their system, and use and learn about computers, we will never force upon users what system they must run. And because we stand proudly with people with disabilities, all blind people are welcome in the world of free and open source software, where they can learn and create just like everyone else."

But no. Gnome, one of the most popular desktops on Linux, is trash with accessibility. KDE is working on it, but that'll take years. Who's ever heard of Mate? And who makes current software for the command line, for users and not other developers?

So now, blind users who cannot upgrade to Windows 11 will probably either stick with Windows 10 indefinitely, save up for a Mac since that'll at least be supported for 7 or so years lol, or buy a new PC for Windows 11. Meanwhile, that laptop from 2015 or so just sits there or gets thrown away or sold. Too bad, right? A perfectly good computer. Ah well. I'll just have to wait until current developers are in their 60's or so, when they start having to lean a little too close to the monitor to see the code, for accessibility in Linux to actually be taken seriously. Because otherwise, they just don't care. And time after time, (Windows XP to Vista to 7 to 8 to 10 to 11), they've had chances to grab a very loyal and somewhat technically-minded user base that could have turned into great coders.

@devinprater You make _very_ good points! It's very important to consider these types of things!

@devinprater
yes. for almost 2 decades free software development has been lagging in accessibility options. i subconsciously assumed physically challenged people do not use computers, mainly because the majority of options now focus on eye candy or keeping sync with windows application behaviors and looks.

free software braille, screenreader and io preipheral options have to break that mold. will it take the actual challenged to do it?

@carl
knoppix is one of those score old things that made great decisions from the getgo
@devinprater

@nergal @devinprater I find android phones unreadable on their tiny screens. You can pinch-zoom, but it doesn't scroll sideways so most of what your trying to see becomes lost. Accent colors and reduction in text contrast that seems to be the rage of ui guys now only makes things even worse.

@tychosoft
Setting "Display size" to "Largest" and "Font size" to "Large" helps for me on a Pixel XL (5.5-inch screen, if I recall correctly) running LineageOS 17.1 (based on Android 10), but there are still websites (like https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=orca ) that don't resize and wrap nicely on small screens.
@nergal @devinprater

@devinprater
for instance, the most affective project i have seen in recent times is https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dasher_(software). the rest? i am unsure the challenged even use them. the main developer of dasher is dead and the urge to work on dasher died with him.

the challenged may have to step up in force to get things going again.

think even enlightenment had been seeking assistance in accessibility coding for years. #enlightenment is a low staffed outfit that make a lean environment. how many people use it?

@devinprater i really can't wait for developers to grow up…

@devinprater
to plug (i am not a dev), there are tools for gemini that allow content to be piped. such as #gmni

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