Accessibility rant 

It's sad that at this point I'm almost happy to see Electron apps simply because it means that the chance it'll be at least somewhat accessible are just so much higher.
So many new UI frameworks coming out, none of which are accessible. More and more "native" apps just... don't work anymore.
Also... I guess native means something else to me than it does to most UI devs. I wouldn't call drawing directly to the screen a native UI. Sure it might be nice and comfy and allow for beautiful coding patterns like stateless UI composition but that stuff's useless if I can't use it. Please keep this in mind when developing your latest and greatest native app using the latest and greatest new immediate mode GUI framework. Not a single one of them will be accessible. And if you're a dev working on one, please think of us.

Accessibility rant 

A lot of people usually comment things like: "It should be the screen readers responsibility to figure out what's on screen. Do some OCR and image recognition and whatever and boom!"
Think about it. That won't work. Not only are there many different fonts that OCR just simply cannot read, but also things like interacting with those controls present a major hurtle at that point. Is it a checkbox, a button, or a button checkbox hybrid? Is it a slider? Is this a fancy button or a turnable knob? What about scrolling text?
Is this syntax highlighting or spelling errors or both? Or does it just mean I selected something? What about if I use another app? We can infer what things mean from context, but can OCR and image recognition? Does it know this is a code editor or a text editor? What if it's Emacs and it's literally everything?
This is why accessibility API's exist. There's a lot of context that would be lost if there was just OCR and image recognition.


Accessibility rant 

iOS has this exact thing using artificial intelligence and while that's awesome in about 75 percent of cases it still fails to do its job properly. It helps getting around quirks, but I haven't found an app that was completely inaccessible that suddenly worked flawlessly. Don't get me wrong, I'm very much happy that it exists and it's super helpful. But there's just no way it will replace any other traditional accessibility in the state it's now.
I was never able to explore screenshots for example, but now I can. I can even look at memes and most of the time, the image explorer does a pretty good job. But translating UI's like that just... doesn't work yet. Or maybe ever.

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