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@fireborn The truly sad thing is you could write this kind of post about every single operating system that we use, even ones that we say works very well actually, like Windows. I've tought several people how to use computers over the years, and inevitably something will come up where they'll ask me but why? And I have no good answer. It's gotten to the point where I don't even actively notice some of the workarounds I do anymore because they're just so natural to me now. I often say if operating systems were as broken for sighted folk as they are for us, everybody would be outraged. It would never, ever, ever fly. Windows has sharp edges. Mac has a lot of sharp edges. iOS has sharp edges. Android has them. ChromeOS seems forgotten and is just one giant edge. And every single one of them has different failure modes. Different things that don't work how they're supposed to. Why do you never linger on this particular section of the UI? Oh it's because if I remain here for too long, things will slowly fall apart and crash. Better tab on quickly! Why do you always very quickly switch out of your terminal? Oh because I know if I execute this particular command, there will be a *lot* of text output, and I know it will take my screen reader down. Are just normal things sometimes. I love computers because they let us take part in life in ways we never could before. But at the same time I hate computers because every day is a reminder of how much we don’t actually truly matter. Everyone's running ahead and we're expending everything we have just to not lose them completely.

@talon @fireborn You're right of course, but the question is the *amount* of such unbearable things. It's like with countries, I love this phrase: choose a country whose drawbacks you can bear. It's the same with operating systems: for me Windows just works, Mac or Linux don't. I know that there are a lot of "works, but…" in there, but yeah, I can set up a Windows PC in a couple hours max and just work, i.e., do my daily stuff. With Mac or Linux — nope, sorry.

@talon @menelion @fireborn Different things work for different people, but yes, everything has its ups and downs, some have more ups, some more downs, and work arounds are a part of life so much, that we just do them on autopilot. Things are supposed to work, but when they don't work, because companies don't want to put the effort, or people don't want to put the effort towards inclusion, then we have no choice. But nothing is perfect, neither are we, so there'll always be things we can't fully answer, or stuff we can and cannot use. And it's not about something being better or worse than something else. It's all down to trial and error, and eventually using everything if we can't choose, or because one thing has something and the others don't. Absolutely thing refers to any OS, that way there's no stating better or worse in this reply.