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Kaliah
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So I'm a little confused. Did anyone else who has updated discord get this weird new layout?

Brandon Tyson
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@Kaliah So my iPhone 8 doesn't have it, so it'll be interesting to see if my 2020 SE gets it.

Kaliah
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@BTyson That's so weird. Why did I get it then

Brandon Tyson
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@Kaliah It could be a gradual rollout. As an example, the App Store only showed that I could update to 193.1 even though you have 194.

Kaliah
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@BTyson Yeah. Maybe it is. I really wish I could go back though because I don't like or want it, like I've said 35 thousand times.

Brandon Tyson
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@Kaliah You could write a review in the App Store about it.

Kaliah
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@BTyson as if that'll go anywhere. Still probably not going to make a difference because it probably looks good, and that's what matters to people. Forget accessibility, this looks better, so it must be better

Quin
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@Kaliah @BTyson Okay but like actually what's your problem with the new interface? I'd very much like DMs to be their own tab. I haven't tried it yet, but that sounds nice as hell. No more wasting like 45 seconds trying to find the god damn DM button.

Kaliah
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@TheQuinbox @BTyson My problem is exactly that. I don't want DM's in their own tab. I really don't. I prefer them at the top above the servers. And I also don't want my servers at the bottom of the screen as a second tab bar. Oh and did I mention that, if you have more than like 4 servers, you have to click an extra button to see the rest? I have lots of problems with the new interface.

Quin
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@Kaliah @BTyson No, you didn't, hence my utter and complete confusion. Sending 50 replies to different people just saying that you don't like it is a very ineffective strategy for letting people actually know *why* to avoid it.

@Kaliah @BTyson Also, why the hell would you want DMs above the servers? That was always *super* buggy for me. Like, I'd hit the direct messages button, and get like 2 of them, then a random fuckin' server. Like what?

Kaliah
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@TheQuinbox @BTyson I never had any problems with that. The servers were scrolled down the left side of the screen and I could touch on them, and the channels were in the right. Clicking on servers and stuff would change the channels in the right. That's simple and easy. This just makes it complicated.

Quin
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@Kaliah @BTyson Yeah no, it never worked like that for me, the swipe order was always weird. I *never* explore by touch though, so maybe that's why? I had no idea servers were down the left side for example.

Kaliah
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@TheQuinbox @BTyson Nope, they totally are. And I liked them by that. Also you think the swipe order was weird in the old layout, just wait until you see the new one. It's completely fucked up there too. I used the old interface by touch exploring, which is why I liked it.

Quin
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@Kaliah @BTyson Oh well that would make sense then. I never explore by touch ever, so it was weird.

Kaliah
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@TheQuinbox @BTyson Yeah, then I see why. The old interface was great if you explored by touch, this one... Really is not.

Brandon Tyson
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@Kaliah @TheQuinbox I have to incorporate explore by touch into my use of Discord even to not run the risk of the app crashing if there's a long message.

Quin
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@BTyson @Kaliah Oh yeah, once again welcome to iOS. Not sure if that's an iOS problem but it doesn't happen on Android and it's build with a cross-platform SDK so shrugs.

Quin
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@BTyson @Kaliah Fun fact, another uniquely iOS problem is swiping left from the text field just throwing you somewhere random in the messages list.

Kaliah
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@TheQuinbox @BTyson Yup. Yet another reason I always touch explore it.

Brandon Tyson
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@Kaliah @TheQuinbox It's still weird that you never had the app crash completely when hitting a long message, whereas both me and Kaliah do, I think. Although 194 hasn't been offered for my SE yet.

Quin
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@BTyson @Kaliah Oh I have. Just on iOS though. That was my whole point.

Quin
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@BTyson @Kaliah Although I don't think that's an app crash. It apparently stays rendered visually.

Brandon Tyson
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@Kaliah @TheQuinbox It is for me, because I'll get thrown back to the home screen, and VoiceOver doesn't say "active" when I navigate to it in the switcher.

Quin
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@BTyson @Kaliah Don't do an app store review though, no one listens to that. Ping them through email or their support ticket thing.

Brandon Tyson
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@TheQuinbox @Kaliah Oh, ok. Does the app have a direct link to that? I think you sent this as I was posting my other reply.

Quin
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@BTyson @Kaliah No idea. Probably. I just used DDG

Brandon Tyson
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@TheQuinbox @Kaliah I'll definitely submit feedback, but I'm not sure it's a good idea to do that until I've had a chance to play with the new interface, as I like to draw on my experiences in the write-up.

Kaliah
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@BTyson @TheQuinbox That's for sure a good idea. I hate it but you may not. Shrugs.

Brandon Tyson
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@Kaliah @TheQuinbox I put feedback in an app store review, is there a better place to do it? It went nowhere for me and I wrote a really thorough explanation. It was awhile ago but they told me to post or look on a page or something, it was late last year when I did it.

Quin
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@BTyson @Kaliah Yeah, like i said no one listens to app store reviews. Try this. support.discord.com/hc/en-us/r

Kaliah
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@TheQuinbox @BTyson If there is a good way to submit feedback where people will actually see it and care, I'd gladly do that. App store reviews have never gone anywhere for me though, which is why I didn't. But if they have some other better way I'll bring this up for sure.

Brandon Tyson
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@Kaliah @TheQuinbox It would probably be good to try that link Quin just sent.

Kaliah
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@BTyson @TheQuinbox I am right now. I'm not sure which category it'd go in though, help and support maybe. Also does this link have any ties to email? If it does I won't be able to do it because my discord is linked to my old email I can't access.

Quin
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@Kaliah @BTyson Help and support is what I did before. Well, before, I pinged them on Twitter, but y'know. Can't really do that now.

Kaliah
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@TheQuinbox @BTyson Yeah. I was thinking about that too. Before I do this I want to make sure this isn't going to rely heavily on my discord email account since I can't access that

Quin
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@Kaliah @BTyson try it and find out. Worst case you close the page or hit the button in the app.

Kaliah
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@TheQuinbox @BTyson So it does rely on an email, but not a specificly registered one. I wish I could get my discord email changed to be consistent. That's literally the only thing stuck on my old broken email.

Brandon Tyson
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@Kaliah @TheQuinbox I'm a bit nervous though, because I did use a page to try to report the lack of a way to change TTS voices and they just pinged it back that it's Microsoft's fault. I was really dissatisfied.

Quin
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@BTyson @Kaliah Perhaps because it is?

Brandon Tyson
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@TheQuinbox @Kaliah But how? They support both OneCore and SAPI (Discord does), you have to break all the other voices in your registry to get it to use the one you want if it's not what Discord preselects. Changing the preference in Settings>Time and Language>Speech, or Control Panel/Text-to-speech, has no effect on Discord.

Quin
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@BTyson @Kaliah What are you talking about? Microsoft doesn't allow voice selection through WebTTS. Pretty simple.

Brandon Tyson
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@Kaliah @TheQuinbox But for example, with Cyclepath, playing in my browser, I changed the selection in Control Panel and it respected it.

Quin
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@BTyson @Kaliah Pretty sure it's a browser thing. I have the Cyclepath code, he literally just creates a WebTTS object.

Brandon Tyson
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@Kaliah @TheQuinbox Ouch. I wish it worked more consistently. I don't recall which browser it was but I think it was at least Cromium-based. And my thinking was, it worked in Cyclepath in a Cromium browser, so why does it not work the same in Discord, since Discord's also Cromium-based? Does that make sense why I'm confused?

Quin
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@BTyson @Kaliah Knowing Microsoft, I wouldn't be at all surprised if they sandbox Electron apps and stop them from accessing things like that.

Quin
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@BTyson @Kaliah Wait um. So my phone is on 194.17. I have no new interface.

Brandon Tyson
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@TheQuinbox @Kaliah It seems like more people don't have it as opposed to those who do.

Quin
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@BTyson @Kaliah Yeah, I really don't think it has to do with your app version. Like I said gradual roleout.

Kaliah
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@TheQuinbox @BTyson WTF? I'm on 194.0 and have it.

Quin
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@Kaliah @BTyson It's not tied to app version; it's tied to accounts I think.

James Dean
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@TheQuinbox @BTyson @Kaliah And now Clubhouse have reinvented themselves by becoming an audio messaging service but broke Accessibility, so there's proof that we just have to keep being squeaky wheels for all time.

Kaliah
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@TheQuinbox @BTyson Oh that's weird. Voiceover bug then?

James Dean
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@TheQuinbox @BTyson @Kaliah It is definitely an App crash. Big clue, you go into the App switcher and it no longer says Discord Active, just Discord. I'm on a server with lots of messages in a channel, some long, others not and if I get too far back into that list, the App crashes every time.

Kaliah
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@GamingWithEars @TheQuinbox @BTyson Really? For me, I'm pretty sure it says discord active if I look at it.

Kaliah
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@BTyson @TheQuinbox Oh yeah, I've had that crash so many times. But if you touch explore it never happens.

Kaliah
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@BTyson @TheQuinbox Yup. That's exactly why I learned to do it.