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Casey Reeves
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@jookia Nah, I doubt it. It would just lead to programs not being usable at all. Next to no dev would bother.

@devinprater@tweesecake.social @jookia @xogium Or the ones that would would all do so differently, requiring the users to learn every program as if it were an entirely different AT stack, like switching between JAWS and NVDA and VoiceOver and different browsers and... Perhaps the mainstream understandable Linux equivalent would be being required to know how to totally use both emacs and vim without any adaptation scripts to make one feel like the other.

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@devinprater@tweesecake.social @jookia @xogium And to switch constantly between those each hour depending on what you need to do

Casey Reeves
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@x0 @devinprater [tweesecake.social] @jookia Yes, exactly. I went through this w/ chromevox for years. I am never doing that again. I didn't mind orca vs speakup. But learning a screen reader for each and every app? Nop, thanks.

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@xogium @devinprater@tweesecake.social @jookia Maybe accessibility becoming part of the kernel? That seems unlikely though and probably out of scope for very good reasons. TO my knowledge the kernel doesn't have anything to do with GUI, the only interaction it has is display rendering and you can't hook accessibility into that, that would be absurd.

Casey Reeves
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@x0 @devinprater [tweesecake.social] @jookia Yep that's what I'm thinking too. As long as society will remain the same, it will leave us with such software stacks. A real shame if there ever was one.

Jookia
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@xogium @x0 @devinprater [tweesecake.social] It's not ideal but I don't really know what else to do if I want to ensure a program is usable on systems without a screen reader

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@jookia @xogium @devinprater@tweesecake.social All systems should ahve a screen reader or they aren't worth anything and no blind person will use them

Jookia
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@x0 @xogium @devinprater [tweesecake.social] Creating my own would help that :)