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Do we as accessibility users have a responsibility to bring accessibility challenges to the attention of developers? Or should developers just know? Asking for a friend

Robin Frost
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@payown I think it's dangerous to ever assume that anyone ever "just knows" anything. Even if it's duplicating that which they know better to try than not to try.

Rexo the Trans Bus 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚌
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@payown@dragonscave.space as a dev please do let us know. as Robin said duplicate reports are vastly preferable to nothing

Day Garwood
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@payown In terms of reality? For the time being, it is our job, since nobody else is educating them. However, I do find it very sad that accessibility and consideration for so-called "disability" wasn't part of mainstream training, or even elementary education, years ago.

Herbie Allen
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@payown I we should. Reality has shown that despite efforts on creating guides and guidelines, they can be easily overlooked.

Devin Prater :blind:
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@payown I think it's somewhere in the middle. If it's a corporate accessibility thing, users need to constantly demand better accessibility so that these data-based corpses get the data that these things are important. But also developers should definitely know some things about accessibility.

Rebecca Legowski
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@payown yes, we should really be bringing accessibility challenges to developers' attention, but I also agree that it's a sad state of affairs they don't always pick up on these things.

podfeet
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@payown As a sightling, I try to remember to test for accessibility in the apps I test and recommend. If I find issues (with my rudimentary VO skills), I always let the developer know. I would say 90% of the responses I get are positive. In some cases the tools are mostly accessible and the devs are often surprised that it was accessible at all and excited to find out and get problems fixed.

Jage
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@payown Probably a bit of both. But developers should have the basic idea down, or be willing to learn it. I don't mind filling in some specifics especially if it leads to a more efficient workflow.

Rich W. Beardsley
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@payown It's a mix of both.

BlindHedgehogStew
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@payown It's always looked as if we have had to do the screaming of our troubles with dev's software - just so the devs can barely hear our minority voices of concerns?