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Sadness. Piper voices break down on ARM64 windows. It's not instant, but if you use them then audio slowly crackles and falls apart, CPU utilization goes up and up, and eventually you crash.

Andre Louis
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@fireborn Maybe I haven't tried them for a long long time in one sitting, but they seemed? To be fine on my Mac.

aaron
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@FreakyFwoof They seem to work on an M-series Mac, but not a Snapdragon pc.

Andre Louis
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@fireborn Oh the irony.

aaron
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@FreakyFwoof Lots of things work this way. If you answer a UAC prompt too fast, on even the elite chips, you'll get a file system error.

Andre Louis
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@fireborn It's sad that a Mac does windows virtualised better than a dedicated machine. Actual lol.

aaron
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@FreakyFwoof Better is subjective though. Performance feels much snappier on a Qualcomm chip.

Andre Louis
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@fireborn That's because of audio input lag probably.

aaron
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@FreakyFwoof There's also some stuff with direct storage etc that probably helps.

Andre Louis
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@fireborn Question, have you tried WireGuard on ARM? I've installed it several times and it never shows up the system tray icon. It's like it installs but doesn't do anything beyond that. Maybe it works better on actual hardware though.

aaron
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@FreakyFwoof I tried this and had the same experience as you. Thankfully my VPN app of choice can be built from GitHub to work on ARm64, so depending on what provider you use if their app is open source you might be able to do that.

Andre Louis
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@fireborn I just use plain WireGuard which connects to PiVPN.

aaron
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@FreakyFwoof Yeah, in that case I think you might be SOL unless you can use an older version of the Wireguard client.

Andre Louis
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@fireborn The thing is, it says it does work on ARM. I specifically downloaded the ARM build. Will try again. One day dropbox didn't work, then one day it did. Things do change. I just need to keep trying it. Last was a few months ago.

aaron
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@FreakyFwoof Yeah, it does. My VPN app also says it works on ARM, and it does, but the latest build launches and crashes, the older one does not.

aaron
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@FreakyFwoof I tried the latest build just now and it's still broken.

Andre Louis
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@fireborn Buggering jugs of blubber!

aaron
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@FreakyFwoof This gave me a chuckle.

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@fireborn @FreakyFwoof I wonder if tailscale, based on wireguard, doesn't work on ARM then? I figured it did...

Mikołaj Hołysz
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@x0 @fireborn @FreakyFwoof Tailscale is using the userland Go Wireguard implementation I think, not a kernel-space Windows driver.

Not sure what the official one does, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was the latter.

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@miki @fireborn @FreakyFwoof Ah. I think it might decide whether it's userland or kernel mode based on the platform yeah. The tailscale client is open source though IIRC so someone can certainly check!

Serena 🏳️‍🌈
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@fireborn @FreakyFwoof yeah that happened to me in a vm on the mac too. lol. it's very anoying.

Mikołaj Hołysz
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@fireborn Well, they used to not do anything at all, as in, the voice would theoretically work, but you wouldn't be getting any speech.

Thank God I know how to change the speech synthesizer unassisted.

Aryan
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@fireborn it could be that each time it's trying to speak it's creating a new emulation process, I'm not sure if it's possible but it would be if the CPU load is going up and up

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@Aryan @fireborn It uses an RPC server, so that server could be compiled directly for ARM64 yes? IIRC the sonata system is written in Rust, which absolutely has a compile target, and the piper base, by virtue of working on a pi, should definitely compile to that, although unsure about optimizations, neon etc.