I just had a genuinely visceral reaction to an article titled 'Switching to Microsoft Teams is getting a lot easier'
I shouted allowed, 'No!!!' Just like that.
You ever been on a plane when some little shittington brat is kicking the back of your seat and you turn around to the parent and just give them the look of... 'Sort it out?'
That's how the title of that aarticle made me feel internally.
I could think of very few things I'd like to do do less honestly.
Teams is a parasite on software society and should be canned last week. Dead. Gone. Buried more impressively than those Atari games in the desert.
Samuel Proulx @fastfinge@interfree.ca@FreakyFwoof It's better than it used to be. And zoom is worse than it used to be. I suspect at some point they'll intersect and everything will suck.
@fastfinge What happens with zoom for you? At least on Mac, it doesn't ever cause me any problems. I can have 10 flawless zoom calls in a row and 0 flawless teams calls. It has never once happened to me. As in, literally never.
@FreakyFwoof Zoom's accessibility seems to deteriorate little by little with every update. The awful web-based calendar, new controls cluttering up the tab order, focus getting lost, buttons losing context in their labels, having to tab to the "Entire screen" option when sharing instead of Enter triggering it as the default as it used to, the chat UI which was never very good but is now worse...
As yet, none of it is enough to take away from the fact that it just works for joining meetings. I never have significant issues actually joining or taking part, but there may come a day when the reliability of the underlying service doesn't matter because using the app is so slow.
@FreakyFwoof @fastfinge @jscholes I'm starting to hate Zoom with a passion. I guess it's fine if you're just talking, but if you need to do anything else - text chat, reactions, breakout rooms, sharing, whatever - it's just deeply painful to use. Text chat is by far the worst though. It may be slightly better on Mac than it is on Windows. On Windows, they can't even be bothered implementing proper editable text accessibility, so I basically have to type my chat messages in the Run dialog and paste them into Zoom.
@jcsteh @FreakyFwoof @fastfinge @jscholes The entire chat panel also lags for no good reason, to the point that hitting tab sometimes takes up to two seconds before NVDA reads what I focused on.
@TheQuinbox @jcsteh @FreakyFwoof @fastfinge @jscholes We use teams at the agency I work at and it works well for the most part. Especially chat and calls. Is it easy to use? Hell no., but it is accessible and works
@ysotomayor @TheQuinbox @FreakyFwoof @fastfinge @jscholes Unpopular opinion: I find Google Meet to be least painful for me. Still hardly perfect, though.
@jcsteh @ysotomayor @FreakyFwoof @fastfinge @jscholes Not an unpopular opinion as far as I'm concerned, all of these platforms are basically shit sandwiches served to us on golden platters, but Google meet is the least painful.
@TheQuinbox LOL, that sounds like an analogy for most tech in 2025 in general. @ysotomayor @FreakyFwoof @fastfinge @jscholes
@TheQuinbox @jcsteh @ysotomayor @FreakyFwoof @fastfinge @jscholes Yeah, I use Google Meet for personal stuff since it works decently well and I don't bump up against time limits with my paid Google account. Teams is pretty decent once you get the hang of it, though. It's what we use at work.
@jyarbrough To be honest, having to "get the hang of it" is what I object to. I'm sick of every app that let's me send and receive messages and talk to people through a microphone imposing a disproportionate learning curve. @TheQuinbox @jcsteh @ysotomayor @FreakyFwoof @fastfinge